tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post8067354791140413003..comments2024-01-17T15:05:50.120-06:00Comments on AngryBlackBitch: There she is, Miss Man-on-Woman Marriage!Shark-Fuhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03323962708956637012noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-77604524312249462572009-04-24T16:27:00.000-05:002009-04-24T16:27:00.000-05:00It would seem people have varying opinions on if M...It would seem people have varying opinions on if Miss California had it "in the bag" prior to being asked a question by Perez -- that is, I have seen opinions elsewhere stating that she received lower marks in some other categories. And I have also seen mentioned here and elsewhere how she flubbed the whole concept of "public speaking." Yes, even if the question is something of a hot-button.<br />It is a civil rights issue, you are talking about denying things like visitation rights in the hospital, filing taxes together, and all the other things a couple gets when they have their union officially recognized by the government -- and those rights are not given with the intent of "marriage is supposed to be for having children," else there'd be enforcement on making sure you could actually, y'know, have children before you're allowed to get married. (Would there be some sort of "punishment" if you, as a couple, decided to not have children? Whee.) This also presupposes that homosexual couples aren't raising children either, blatently untrue, some of them do so (and some of these children might even have one of the adults as a biological parent. It happens.)<br />Denying the right for certain types of couples to receive marriage benefits is most certainly a civil rights issue, others too have already mentioned how interracial marriage was similarly unrecognized by the government in the past.<br />One can disagree with the concept of two consenting adults spending the rest of their lives together and getting rights/recognition from the state, but don't be surprised when other people find your opinion rather bigoted. It would have been entirely possible to answer the question without getting into her personal opinion on gay marriage at all, and merely make some mention about how civil rights are for everybody and not merely some arbitrarily chosen few. Of course, she would've had to be able to articulate such an answer, and I have my serious doubts.Jessenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-30753785712640384542009-04-24T01:21:00.000-05:002009-04-24T01:21:00.000-05:00Perez Hilton made an awfully quick transition from...Perez Hilton made an awfully quick transition from respectable pageant judge to vindictive media beastNomadhttp://www.coffeenomad.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-27604915896609301092009-04-23T14:26:00.000-05:002009-04-23T14:26:00.000-05:00i think it was inappropriate for mr. hilton to use...i think it was inappropriate for mr. hilton to use the paegent to advance his own political agenda. and i am gay, btw. i do respect ms. california for telling her own truth, especially because she's experienced enough to know that winning paegents has nothing to do with letting your little light shine and being true to yourself, but about conforming yourself as much as possible to the judges' expectations. however, both of their opinions and actions made me really dislike them and not want to listen to them, and in the aftermath they both made themselves look even more irrational, petty, and just plain ugly (like, on the inside). hopefully in the future we'll see as little of the both of them as possible.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-51959407279994544702009-04-23T08:33:00.000-05:002009-04-23T08:33:00.000-05:00hateful is not the same as ignorant. if Miss Cali ...hateful is not the same as ignorant. if Miss Cali thinks gays and lesbians can get married in most of this country, then she is as dumb as a sack of hammers. if she wants to share her beliefs, fine and fucking dandy. if she wants to espouse an opinion about policy, she should get a clue.berdawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-71633398546172095942009-04-23T07:29:00.000-05:002009-04-23T07:29:00.000-05:00This is not a religious issue. It is a question of...This is not a religious issue. It is a question of granting civil rights to every citizen. Citizenship in America guarantees equal protection under the law. Inclusion in that equality has been expanding since the founding of the country to include those that did not own property, women, blacks, etc, and we're a better country for it. Gays & lesbians current demand for the same right to marry is testing traditional boundaries, ruffling feathers, but it is no different from earlier demands for inclusion. We now think of those citizens who tried to deny such expansion as intolerant, ignorant, and bigoted. Get used to those labels if you're on the backward side this time around.Jebuffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00887995266411564557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-52018385408609458452009-04-23T07:18:00.000-05:002009-04-23T07:18:00.000-05:00President Obama was in the pageant?
How the fuck ...President Obama was in the pageant?<br /><br />How the fuck did I miss that shit?!?<br /><br />Wink.<br /><br />For the record, a bitch does not absolve the President or any politician for their fence straddling or outright anti-marriage equality stance.<br /><br />I'm puzzled as to why folks assume I do...since I've several ass chewing posts about Obama's marriage stance up that earned me some grief from his supporters.<br /><br />'Tis curious.<br /><br />Anyhoo, Miss California chose to take her question from Hilton...and she made the wrong call if she assumed she'd get a soft ball question.Shark-Fuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03323962708956637012noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-85228036148716877862009-04-22T23:25:00.000-05:002009-04-22T23:25:00.000-05:00I don't flow like anonymous, but I'm certainly not...I don't flow like anonymous, but I'm certainly not in agreement with your take on Ms. California. One of my friends who watched the pageant said she had this thing in the bag until Hilton sandbagged her with this hot potato question. <br /><br />Believing in traditional marriage doesn't make her a bigot. Her views in this area are no different than the President, the Vice President and the Secretary of State, but I don't see them getting called outside their name or labeled as bigots. When people are inconsistent that way, it makes me think they espouse beliefs which they have not really thought deeply about.<br /><br />I thought the woman was treated poorly by the pageant. Hilton behaved like a jackass. As I posted at my own blog, if the deal is that people with conservative opinions or values are no longer ever going to have a shot, the pageant should let folks know that up front so people can save themselves the effort and spend it elsewhere. <br /><br />Believing in traditional marriage does not make one a defacto bigot or intolerant and I think its highly asinine and lacking in analysis to think so. For the many here that think otherwise, just tell me why you're not excoriating our President, who takes the very same position?Political Seasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09609253738367441591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-23245330922331403122009-04-22T19:56:00.000-05:002009-04-22T19:56:00.000-05:00I wasn't too upset about what she said, she is fro...I wasn't too upset about what she said, she is from a Christian college so her viewpoints would most likely be different from mine.The main reason I felt she should have lost the crown was that she was so all over the place in her response, she just isn't ready to do any big media stuff if she can't get out a streamlined response.These ladies are supposed to be graceful in all categories and this category was flubbed and she did a miserable job of representing her "opposite" viewpoint.Go back over how to respond to on the spot questions Miss California and try again next time in stead of being so damn bitter,not every girl wins but some ladies do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-88149872032424048752009-04-22T18:41:00.000-05:002009-04-22T18:41:00.000-05:00Angry Black Man really is angry. He outcussed you ...Angry Black Man really is angry. He outcussed you ABB. Never thought I would see this happen. Love your response to him.<br /><br />And ABM-it used to be that black people couldn't marry white people. The same arguments were being used then as now. How can you not see that this is the same problem of bigotry raring its ugly head? <br /><br />People should stop calling this gay rights or gay marriage it is more than that, it is a civil right, a human right. <br /><br />If marriage is so sacred to straight people then why do they keep messing it up so much? Gay people aren't making marriage less sacred, straight people are.<br /><br />Think about it ABM. Think about what you are buying into. And... stop drinking the kool-aid, it is filed with hate and other vile things.<br /><br />Peace, love and soulAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-21416016870196983632009-04-22T17:03:00.000-05:002009-04-22T17:03:00.000-05:00If Hilton didn't want to hear Miss California's an...If Hilton didn't want to hear Miss California's answer on a topic that is evidently so near and dear to his heart, then he shouldn't have asked the question. I don't think she should have lied and given Hilton the answer he obviously wanted to hear.<br /><br />I did think her answer was good in that she did not respond hatefully, call Hilton out of his name or state that she thought there was something wrong with gays. All she did was state her belief, which is held by a sizable portion of the US population. Are ALL of those people bigots?<br /><br />I don't think anyone really cares what Miss California or Miss USA think of gay marriage issues. It was a silly question for that venue. She's a beauty contestant, not a politician.<br /><br />Why is Hilton seemingly getting a pass for using such hateful sexist language? If Prejean had called Hilton a f** and refused to answer the question, would that be ok? Obviously not..Shady_Gradyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00996625985002373392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-17784071391224110922009-04-22T16:40:00.000-05:002009-04-22T16:40:00.000-05:00Good Gawd, y'all!
Anonymous managed to express fr...Good Gawd, y'all!<br /><br />Anonymous managed to express frustration at being lumped in with Bull Conner and channel his inner Bull Connor at the same time!<br /><br />Note the date and time, please.Shark-Fuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03323962708956637012noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-74188961944940604082009-04-22T16:24:00.000-05:002009-04-22T16:24:00.000-05:00Thanks, Angry Black Bitch! This Angry Black Man ne...Thanks, Angry Black Bitch! This Angry Black Man needed a quick reminder of how intolerant you pro-gay motherfuckers truly are. I'm in favor of regular, old-fashioned, every-major-religion, man-and-woman marriage, just like the vast majority of motherfuckers on this motherfuckin' planet. I never thought of myself as bigoted or anti-gay until all you idiots started throwing out that shit like confetti. Maybe I should embrace it and become anti-gay, since being pro-gay seems to have the same effect on your argumentative skills as a lobotomy. <br /><br />I would never do any harm to anyone, but I more than thoroughly pissed off at people (straight and gay) who keep calling me a hater and acting like I'm fuckin' Bull Connor just because I don't wanna go fuckin' with the definition of marriage. Fuck all you bitches! Keep disrespecting us and trying to force gay marriage down our throats and you'll see what real Haterade tastes like.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-19534377990418356282009-04-22T16:08:00.000-05:002009-04-22T16:08:00.000-05:00Dear Rants, Thoughts & Merde, You're partl...Dear Rants, Thoughts & Merde, You're partly right... We do need to pay attention to what passes for acceptable opinion in broadcast. Not to censure it, but so we can shine light on the ideas to see if they hold with our current vision (ever-expanding, hopefully) of civil rights, our society, etc. However, I take exception to your "televised globally". This crap certainly was not broadcast here in France, and I doubt in any other culturally developed country. Don't worry about world opinion being shocked or America's image distorted by this particular episode. Where anybody is still paying attention, epectations are pretty low already.Jebuffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00887995266411564557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-83072182239242871302009-04-22T15:06:00.000-05:002009-04-22T15:06:00.000-05:00I that her use of the term "opposite marriage" sho...I that her use of the term "opposite marriage" should bar her from the competition!MaggieJoonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05016871190528308845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-24326405769964309972009-04-22T13:32:00.000-05:002009-04-22T13:32:00.000-05:00Shady_Grady, it's good that she mentioned that peo...Shady_Grady, it's good that she mentioned that people could choose? why? so that she can demonstrate her ignorance? Only people who live in Iowa or Massachusetts can choose same-sex or "opposite" marriage.berdawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-25151701078187361612009-04-22T11:20:00.000-05:002009-04-22T11:20:00.000-05:00I won't disparage her statement or beliefs..as sad...I won't disparage her statement or beliefs..as sadly hateful as they are. <br /><br />But I would bet the current Miss America feels the same way, as most of the females that take part in these types of contests are shallow, self-centered women with a conservative bent...I mean really..how many progressives would put themselves through the shit these broads gladly go through? ;pAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06698117410778232102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-34260945517716894302009-04-22T08:22:00.000-05:002009-04-22T08:22:00.000-05:00I thought it was a pretty good statement in that s...I thought it was a pretty good statement in that she mentioned that people could choose, but that she had a different view. She didn't say anything that was hateful or bigoted, unless you happen to believe that the current President (who is also opposed to gay marriage) is hateful and bigoted. <br /><br />For Hilton to call her a c*** and a b**** shows who's really hateful and intolerant.Shady_Gradyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00996625985002373392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-43095387283187766172009-04-22T08:11:00.000-05:002009-04-22T08:11:00.000-05:00Dear SagaciousHillbilly;
We do need to care about...Dear SagaciousHillbilly;<br /><br />We do need to care about what this "dumb fuck barbie doll beauty queen from Calleefornia thinks" cuz, given the platform from which she spoke - televised globally, it registered with all those who look to a "figure head" dumbass for validation of their bigotry and hate! <br /><br />Its fucked up but the reality of the world we are in! Need someone point out that ignorance seldomly looks outside its own box for education! <br /><br /><br />xo<br />Rants, Thoughts & Merde<br />http://www.rantsthoughtsmerde.com/2009/04/debra-messing-tff-vf-fete.htmlNativeNYkerhttp://www.rantsthoughtsmerde.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-56552521065212010222009-04-22T05:29:00.000-05:002009-04-22T05:29:00.000-05:00That rancid heifer can kiss my big gay ass. C U Ne...That rancid heifer can kiss my big gay ass. C U Next Tuesday, Miss Kalifornia.Jeffrey Rickerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04092417221754047322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-27523265013395357442009-04-22T00:27:00.000-05:002009-04-22T00:27:00.000-05:00First of all, will we ever get rid of the anachron...First of all, will we ever get rid of the anachronistic, misogynistic Miss Twat USA/Universe/whatever?<br />As a native Californian, in some fucked up way, she does reflect the ignorance and stupidity of our "hip and progressive" state judging from Prop H8's success. Wake up California!Cruel Hand Ukenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-48193361504456213052009-04-21T23:52:00.000-05:002009-04-21T23:52:00.000-05:00Yea, the beauty queen sounded like one of those re...Yea, the beauty queen sounded like one of those religious fundie extremists, but the question I gotta ask is: who gives a damn what some dumb fuck barbie doll beauty queen from Calleefornia thinks about gay marriage?SagaciousHillbillyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09511441325695460501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-39707358751097819952009-04-21T22:07:00.000-05:002009-04-21T22:07:00.000-05:00Let's face it, it's a pageant. I don't get why we'...Let's face it, it's a pageant. I don't get why we're still have these in this day and age. And to expect the best and brightest to enter is foolish really. What you get is pretty with a lot of media training. <br /><br />Now if I may descend into the unpretty for a moment. What really cost her the crown was her enormous head and that weird boob job...Nathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17820151216368057393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-67819804623399818802009-04-21T19:13:00.000-05:002009-04-21T19:13:00.000-05:00Anonymous has a point. She has already appeared on...Anonymous has a point. She has already appeared on FOX and has positioned herself as the victim.<br />The smoke and mirrors tour has kicked off.briannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-17768206390187404432009-04-21T15:29:00.000-05:002009-04-21T15:29:00.000-05:00I watched the video of this and you nailed it, Bit...I watched the video of this and you nailed it, Bitch. I think her comments lost her the crown, but deservedly so. If she is so unaware of facts that she doesn't know that one CAN'T choose what kind of marriage (it's ILLEGAL in my state, princess) then she doesn't get to win.berdawnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-5235213129925574042009-04-21T14:58:00.000-05:002009-04-21T14:58:00.000-05:00What her PR people probably have told her is that ...What her PR people probably have told her is that by saying she is opposed to equality and that it cost her the crown, she can turn around and say that they(those who do not agree with her) are being bigotted towards her. She becomes the victim, even though she is the bigot! This is the slippery slope on which we all now live.<br /><br />Has anyone one out there read, The Man Who Sold The World. It's about Reaganomics and it speaks to this idea that these bigots/big business lovers/haters of the common folk have that they are the true victims, eventhough they are the ones causing all the problems. They simply can not see that they are the problem. This woman is the problem and so are all the other men and women who work daily to oppress others.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com