tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post1920638288023608267..comments2024-01-17T15:05:50.120-06:00Comments on AngryBlackBitch: Dear Geraldine…Shark-Fuhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03323962708956637012noreply@blogger.comBlogger43125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-85572730523979603202008-03-17T23:08:00.000-05:002008-03-17T23:08:00.000-05:00"Check your references and get rid of your short s..."Check your references and get rid of your short sightedness. Or just stay angry, uninformed and jumping to conclusions. After all the race card is a easy out if not downright lazy."<BR/><BR/>Wow! That wasn't condescending at all.<BR/><BR/>My long range vision shows me that Hillary Clinton is the queen of race baiting in this election. Her campaign is doing all the dirty work so that the republicans manage to keep their hands racially clean. She and her husband are every bit the opportunistic sharks that conservatives always knew them to be. And apparently, racism is not out of their bounds. But that's ok. When a white woman such as Geraldine Ferarro makes a racially insulting statement, basically busting Barack's campaign success as being nothing more than a case of affirmative action, let us all turn it around and blame any black voices of dissent, call them mentally lazy, and accuse them of playing the race card that the white woman actually dealt.<BR/><BR/>And while you're patting yourself on the back for being able to see Geraldine as a harbinger of truth, the concept of the "right kind of black" is racist... and still innacurate in your argument. Because Geraldine did not say Obama is where he is because he is black and a democrat. You made that distinction, not her.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-40144790200207151542008-03-17T11:24:00.000-05:002008-03-17T11:24:00.000-05:00From experience I know that what Geraldine said is...From experience I know that what Geraldine said is, at least for some voters, true. I wanted Obama to be my candidate. I really did. Early on I was excited about the possibity of an African American becoming president. All things being equal between Hillary and Obama, I'd voite for Obama. Why? Because I personally believe that, while prejudice of all sorts exist against women and people of color, a black president would represent a greater barrier conquered. Just my opinion. After researching the two candidates and their views, it turned out that Hillary was more on target in representing my views, and so that is who I have to support. While Geraldine's comments probably exaggerated the situation, she was NOT totally off base.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-14651672541528570902008-03-16T23:30:00.000-05:002008-03-16T23:30:00.000-05:00Two points you missed.1. Ferraro made the statemen...Two points you missed.<BR/><BR/>1. Ferraro made the statement on a politcal discussion talk show that she is paid to do. She said it as a response to a question about her opinion and not on behalf of anyone on a campaign, It's her own separate opinion.<BR/><BR/>2. It was referenced as her belief that Obama does not qualify for President. He lacks experience and if it weren't for the black vote he would not have gotten this far on his credentials alone! Up until recently, Obama has not been questioned on what he will do for the African Americans or anyone else for that matter. Angry black bitches will just wait until he is safely in the whitehouse to ask what he stands for.<BR/>Then you will find out that it is not Obama that rules, but Pelosi, Dashel, Dodd and the remainder of the racists that will rule the whitehouse much the way that Cheney and Rumsfield ruled over Bush. Ferraro is not a racist but these above mentioned people may be. They want control of the whitehouse and Obama is their only route to controlling it.<BR/>Obama has been bought out and payback is a bitch. blink blink...<BR/>Oh and check out what Shirley Chisolm said about her experience of race and gender. She said it was tougher to win on her gender than it was her race!!! dum de dum<BR/><BR/>blink blink blink<BR/><BR/>Check your references and get rid of your short sightedness. Or just stay angry, uninformed and jumping to conclusions. After all the race card is a easy out if not downright lazy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-75813213981676561292008-03-13T20:53:00.000-05:002008-03-13T20:53:00.000-05:00Anon...Tempting though it is to dive into a qualif...Anon...<BR/>Tempting though it is to dive into a qualification dance, that's not the purpose of this post.<BR/><BR/>Gerry stated that Obama is where he his because he is black...and, given her logic, Keyes should have caught on whether he was a Republican or not. Her argument is that it was all a matter of timing and the planets lining up and blah blah bullshit.<BR/><BR/>As to Gerry being right, well that's a very telling statement for you to make.<BR/><BR/>But this ain't therapy, you're not my patient and I'm not going to try to cure your ass.<BR/><BR/>Mercy.Shark-Fuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03323962708956637012noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-5091308035714043432008-03-13T20:44:00.000-05:002008-03-13T20:44:00.000-05:00Well the reason the Alan Keyes excuse doesn't work...Well the reason the Alan Keyes excuse doesn't work is that he wasn't the "right" kind of black man, he was a Republican.<BR/><BR/>Hate to say it but GF is right, most people can't name a single accomplishment Obama can take credit for on the national stage, that's because he is inexperienced and not qualified.<BR/><BR/>He is qualified in many people's opinion based on hyperbole and personality and yes race, not his stances which are identical to Clinton's.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-57515491877937833412008-03-13T09:31:00.000-05:002008-03-13T09:31:00.000-05:00No passes, no excuses - it's wrong wrong wrong. B...No passes, no excuses - it's wrong wrong wrong. But what is driving me nuts is the glee I can feel oozing out of some people watching Hillary's implosion. It feels the same as the night I watched the results come in from the Carol Mosely Braun/Peter Fitzgerald senate race (good lord, has it been 8 years ago?) - Carol fought tooth and nail, built the best coalition she could, and lost to a stageful of suspender-popping, cigar-chomping balding old white men. The Dearly Beloved and I cried as Fitzgerald gloated through his acceptance speech. <BR/><BR/>This feels the same. I welcome Barack, but I abhore those who violently reject Hillary because, well, just because she's Hillary. Call it mysogeny, call it gender bias, call it schadenfeude. It's wrong by any name.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-10051652279317668452008-03-12T23:10:00.000-05:002008-03-12T23:10:00.000-05:00Bravo! Great post once again.Sometimes, listening ...Bravo! Great post once again.<BR/><BR/>Sometimes, listening to Clinton's supporters justify this kind of crap really gets me down. I expect it from the Right, but from the Center Right? Sorry, I meant to say from supposed Liberals? But this has always been there, lurking underneath, hasn't it? It's just that the Clintons have turned over the rock to expose what's been buried below. <BR/><BR/><I>I hold the left to a higher standard and I will not apologize for that. And I sure as hell hold candidates who seek to achieve my vote to the highest of standards.</I><BR/><BR/>Yes. That's why all of this is so disturbing.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for taking it on so well. Thanks for giving me something to smile about.cowboyangelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13452987299073540171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-69135924755834299112008-03-12T20:09:00.000-05:002008-03-12T20:09:00.000-05:00Shark Fu, you have, in your comment here, vocalize...Shark Fu, you have, in your comment here, vocalized what many of us think about this campaign. <BR/><BR/>Thank you for your insightful commentary. <BR/><BR/>Ferraro has resigned..but only so she can continue spewing her vile bullshit. <BR/><BR/>Pathetic..thy name is Geraldine Ferraro. <BR/><BR/>Not to mention, Pat the Idiot Buchanan is now standing up for her right to spew vile racist garbage on Dan Abrams show..god make it stop!!!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06698117410778232102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-10508207214312537642008-03-12T19:32:00.000-05:002008-03-12T19:32:00.000-05:00Drat, why do people that I once respected have to ...Drat, why do people that I once respected have to flame out so spectacularly? <BR/><BR/>Gov. Putz, the former bane of Wall Street crooks<BR/><BR/>now my fellow alumnae (years before), Gerry Ferraro.<BR/><BR/>And HRC - she should know how to rein in her erstwhile allies. And,she should know not to violate the 11th commandment, thou shalt not praise a Republican over a Democrat.<BR/><BR/>NancyPAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-87238255681041136172008-03-12T18:52:00.000-05:002008-03-12T18:52:00.000-05:00Sister, I take no joy from this. None. But the b...Sister, I take no joy from this. <BR/><BR/>None. <BR/><BR/>But the bafflement you speak of is rooted in a place of privilege that has led the same people who feel Obama has been given a pass to reveal through their words exactly what they feel he has been given a pass on - race.<BR/><BR/>I hold the left to a higher standard and I will not apologize for that. And I sure as hell hold candidates who seek to achieve my vote to the highest of standards.<BR/><BR/>This is not about who is getting more shit tossed at them. This is about who is tossing the shit, the message they have attached to it pre-toss and the back-to-back-to-back pattern of it.<BR/><BR/>I'm disgusted. I'm insulted. And I'm in no mood to suck it up and take one for the team.<BR/><BR/>That may change, but continued incidents of race-based bafflement will not assist in that one bit.<BR/><BR/>So no, there is no joy for me in this election except that the citizens are expressing themselves better than the candidates.<BR/><BR/>Mayhap I'll take comfort in the masses...Shark-Fuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03323962708956637012noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-68458707213016843832008-03-12T17:28:00.000-05:002008-03-12T17:28:00.000-05:00I don't think it's racism. No really, it's not. ...I don't think it's racism. No really, it's not. It's pure-D bafflement. I'm a little baffled myself... <BR/><BR/>(cracks knuckles, neck)<BR/><BR/>Let's all take a deep breath and place ourselves in those sensible pumps for just a minute, okay? You are a 60-year-old career politician, having started back in the day when "career politician" wasn't an epithet but recognition of a higher call to public service. All your life you have worked harder than anyone else – you’re a bulldog and a policy wonk who has to know everything about every issue because that's how you survive. You’ve brought home the bacon and fried it up in the pan; then been humiliated into baking cookies on national TV to prove that you’re not one of those feminists. After decades of taking the backseat to your more charismatic spouse - and standing by your man - it’s time. Your kid’s out of the house and you’re in the Senate; the stars have finally aligned and it's… your… turn. <BR/><BR/>And it’s sweet. You’re ready. You know just how ugly things can get, but you’ve been through the fires. Interns and Ken Starr and vast right-wing conspiracies? Bring ‘em on. You’re ready for the Limbaughs, the Coulters, those Citizens United Not Timid shirts with your picture on ‘em, and every other sling and arrow Outrageous Fortune will throw your way.<BR/><BR/>Then some kid with big ears and a funny name stands up, grabs the spotlight, and just won’t sit down again. <BR/><BR/>It’s bafflement, people. She’s baffled. <BR/><BR/>Race is an issue (don’t one single person out there DARE tell me it isn’t – I’m from Detroit) just as much as gender, but Barack IS being treated more lightly than Hillary because we have been taught that polite people don’t use certain words but women are still fair game. Where are the smart-ass “Not In God’s Green Earth Republican” t-shirts? Does anyone really believe that if Barack is nominated an older woman will stand up at a McCain rally and ask “how do we defeat the Nigger?” (and if so, that McCain will chuckle and respond “good question”?) Pick your epithet. They’re all wrong, but don’t sit there and suggest they are any LESS wrong than what she's called in public every day. <BR/><BR/>Hillary is baffled, and she’s not used to not knowing the answer. I’m baffled, and I don’t know the answer either. I think she is going to lose the nomination, and that will break many hearts - including mine - as it gladdens others. For those who would rejoice in Barack’s success, welcome. For those who would gloat in Hillary’s downfall, shame on all of you. She is a mother, a wife, a daughter, a sitting senator of this country, a human being, and a child of God. Let’s work together on this public forum that Little Sister ABB so graciously shares with us to lift up, not tear down. We are all in this together.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-45852484834532951962008-03-12T16:39:00.000-05:002008-03-12T16:39:00.000-05:00Have I told you lately how much I love you?In all ...Have I told you lately how much I love you?<BR/><BR/>In all seriousness, it looks like Obama is going to win the nomination. At which point, Republicans will have the "even the Clintons said" card to play. Fucked up.Amanda Marcottehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05098500818240791320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-62128013407031487462008-03-12T15:00:00.000-05:002008-03-12T15:00:00.000-05:00You have hit it squarely Empty Head. But what a ba...You have hit it squarely Empty Head. But what a bad strategy it is. She will not win the election with such a strategy. If people were so opposed to Obama he would not have already taken so much of the popular vote. It is amazing she is not seeing this.<BR/><BR/>It is a desperate last gasp for air.<BR/><BR/>Who knew the Clinton's were such bad news? I am amazed!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-14013811645747304062008-03-12T14:27:00.000-05:002008-03-12T14:27:00.000-05:00HRC is abandoning the black vote b/c she thinks sh...HRC is abandoning the black vote b/c she thinks she can win with the blue collar white (mostly Catholic) women's vote--like she did in Ohio. She knows that her base is racist so she's given 'em some white hope. She "offered" the VP to Obama to show her "fairness". She's in second place, but she's not giving up and she'll ruin the whole thing rather than lose graciously or quit. The right-wing haters were right about the Clintons; they're vile, arrogant liars who will do anything for power. Not that much different than our current regime.Fodder of Dreamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12068131157818692727noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-14801095750054980462008-03-12T13:46:00.000-05:002008-03-12T13:46:00.000-05:00You are right as rain. I can't believe how she's ...You are right as rain. I can't believe how she's defending herself, claiming it wasn't a racist statement. She's disgusting and Clinton is disgusting for not getting rid of her. I'm sick of Clinton supporters trying to compete over who's more discriminated against. She's appealing to the lowest common denominator and thanks to here I think we're going to end up with another tired, shady old white man in the office--nothing's going to change.A.H.https://www.blogger.com/profile/12753856526571588340noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-6251653425161178442008-03-12T13:43:00.000-05:002008-03-12T13:43:00.000-05:00This is such a damned if you do, damned if you don...This is such a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. If Mr. Obama wins the black vote that is down played if he loses it, it's<BR/>played up. <BR/><BR/>Farraro has errored and so has Hillary. The days of dragging out Willie Horton to win an election are gone. It is so obvious that she is part of the old guard that has kept this country bogged down in ignorance. Why continue to go for the hater vote? It really doen't help the nation to move forward. Doing what is best for the nation should be the goal first and foremost. <BR/><BR/>It is so disappointing to see people behave in such a way. And so disappointing to constantly see how little progress this nation has made in the area of race. What will it take? I mean really. Why are there these pockets of people working so hard to keep other's down? They need therepy. It is sad. They refuse to let go of their beleifs that are not based in fact but in myth. It's the same old statements whites make about affirmative action that the black person couldn't possibly be qualified based on their level of education, work ethic or knowledge. No, they would rather believe the balck person only got where they are because they are black. As if you can just sit there, be black and stuff falls into your lap. It is a demeaning and tired arguement. <BR/><BR/>What is happeneing to Mr. Obabma is what happens to all blacks who achieve within this nation. They are brought down a peg, attacked and bullied. This verbal intimidation is as harmful as the lychings that occurred in the past.<BR/><BR/>A moment of silence please as the civil rights clock rolls backwards.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-24412905107832034272008-03-12T13:28:00.000-05:002008-03-12T13:28:00.000-05:00i guess i was shocked that geraldine and camp clin...i guess i was shocked that geraldine and camp clinton had become out in the open with the race card. up to this point they had been using 'muslim' in place of 'black'- but meaning the same thing. winning is everything and if she can't win on merit- she will use the bigotry card. i don't buy into the american feminist bullshit anyway. to me- it looks like an upscale white yuppie coffee klatch. and i am a white female. obama has been sticking to the issues and they can't take it- so they are going for the base. that's the difference between 'experience' and actually having a finger on the pulse of the voters.billiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16206096509976316141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-5009831963579428072008-03-12T13:12:00.000-05:002008-03-12T13:12:00.000-05:00This is so fucked up. I get angrier and angrier t...This is so fucked up. I get angrier and angrier the more I think about it (and I've been stewing about it since I heard). I am so embarrassed that these people call themselves "feminists." They give feminists, and Democratic women, a bad name.Margarethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03047700345491098393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-58680666278987098352008-03-12T12:14:00.000-05:002008-03-12T12:14:00.000-05:00Hillary knows that there is NOTHING she can do or ...Hillary knows that there is NOTHING she can do or say to get the black vote (91% for Obama in Mississipi). She has to appeal to somebody if she wants to win.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-15011960295554208352008-03-12T11:44:00.000-05:002008-03-12T11:44:00.000-05:00precisely. thank you.precisely. thank you.gwoertendykehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00542058287462910446noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-43803529970103578082008-03-12T11:31:00.000-05:002008-03-12T11:31:00.000-05:00Meanwhile, I heard yesterday on some tv news comme...Meanwhile, I heard yesterday on some tv news commentary that Obama winning by less than 15% in State X would be bad for him b/c it would mean he only won the black vote. Who's telling Hillary that she's in trouble b/c she can only win the white vote?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-2384043706840171822008-03-12T10:21:00.000-05:002008-03-12T10:21:00.000-05:00Forgot to mention, props to you Shark-Fu for anoth...Forgot to mention, props to you Shark-Fu for another well-written response to asinine comments from out-of-touch feminists.Anonymisshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13030472200941563001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-61927866488482703672008-03-12T10:18:00.000-05:002008-03-12T10:18:00.000-05:00Gregory said... Great response. Over at Politico t...<I>Gregory said... <BR/>Great response. Over at Politico they dug up a 1988 quote from Ferraro saying "If Jesse Jackson weren't black, he wouldn't be in the [presidential] race." Apparently it's nothing new for her.</I><BR/><BR/>Oh my. She seems to be quite the asshole.Anonymisshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13030472200941563001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-14644143082412004202008-03-12T10:15:00.000-05:002008-03-12T10:15:00.000-05:00"Here's an interesting quandary, Shark-fu. What's ..."Here's an interesting quandary, Shark-fu. What's her next move? Does Senator Clinton think she'll be able to win back enough of the black folks and young people to beat McCain?" <BR/><BR/>-Late-breaking news flash:<BR/><BR/>Hillary doesn't fucking care!<BR/><BR/>She doesn't want the black vote, else she wouldn't be pulling the race card.<BR/><BR/>She wants the haters.Admiral Komackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13671698772150420737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-47227436577904108292008-03-12T09:04:00.000-05:002008-03-12T09:04:00.000-05:00Thanks SO MUCH, Shark-Fu. I'm so pissed off I'm t...Thanks SO MUCH, Shark-Fu. I'm so pissed off I'm trembling. More and more of HIllary's supporters are saying and doing more and more things that make me fear I will not be able to vote for her if she wins the Democratic nomination. <BR/><BR/>Here's hoping I won't have to.Maureen O'Danuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17802794677839902284noreply@blogger.com