tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post1815004051274088282..comments2024-01-17T15:05:50.120-06:00Comments on AngryBlackBitch: Untitled...Shark-Fuhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03323962708956637012noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-37728420181715555152011-05-23T21:36:35.166-05:002011-05-23T21:36:35.166-05:00Believe me - it isn't just Kanazawa. It is our...Believe me - it isn't just Kanazawa. It is our own doing it to us as well! Please read my blog: www.happysnappynappy.blogspot.com. I address my frustration with this very issue.Roz Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15310531460868070471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-27381872631536447692011-05-21T22:27:52.947-05:002011-05-21T22:27:52.947-05:00Psychology Today is to real medical journals what ...Psychology Today is to real medical journals what National Enquirer is to actual news media. <br /><br />That's why my pharmacist boss used to stock Psychology Today somewhere between Maxim and the sleazy celebrity stalking magazines, while the actual pharmacy trade journals were kept in the back and read by the chemists, and the mental health specialist.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-75456691558623188022011-05-20T01:01:05.301-05:002011-05-20T01:01:05.301-05:00Bleh. That is definitely some rancidity. I am genu...Bleh. That is definitely some rancidity. I am genuinely sorry that you had to deal with it, and the fubar that followed. Although the author.. well.. let's just take the high road and say Japan hasn't been the most hospitable to immigrants. That's bad, for further isolating an already insular culture, but it's bad for the blood, too, mark my words. SO many old folks, few births, no freshening new influences. And have you SEEN how ugly the faces of those inbred British royals look? Yes, EVEN William. UGLY, somebody hit them over the head with an ugly stick. They need to go marry a bunch of Brazilians! Get some vigor in those genes. <br /><br />I am mostly gay (white dude speakin') but I have always found black women far more beautiful than any others. Black women can look good wearing orange, purple, maroon, shockingly vivid colors. If I tried to wear orange, I would look like a Creamsicle!Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15131069821069587814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-37245172803456194382011-05-18T20:08:52.920-05:002011-05-18T20:08:52.920-05:00Dear Wife,
You're Blaq is beautiful to me.Dear Wife, <br /><br />You're Blaq is beautiful to me.Paper Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10706654258947004552noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-54911467307897417122011-05-18T19:23:39.857-05:002011-05-18T19:23:39.857-05:00"And I resent the myth you are perpetuating -..."And I resent the myth you are perpetuating - that bigotry and injustice just need the oppressed to set aside our natural and completely justified emotions so we can fullfil our role on earth which is to illuminate, tolerate, appease, and attend to."<br /><br />That belongs on a bill board. Awesome.SagaciousHillbillyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09511441325695460501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-47981352385628181372011-05-18T19:15:55.544-05:002011-05-18T19:15:55.544-05:00This one just f'ing pissed me off real plain. ...This one just f'ing pissed me off real plain. How dare that publish that clap trap right out there in the open where young black girls, maybe 8, 10 or 14 yrs. old could read it. RRRRRRgh. I just want to grab whoever is responsible for this shit and shake some sense into them. <br /><br />I love women, all women. I've had a long and satisfying relationship (in my mind) with many black women such as Teresa Graves and Pam Grier.<br /><br />But seriously, WTF is wrong with not only the racist prick who wrote this pile of dung, but Psychology Today for publishing it. Geez, the sample group was a group of psychological researchers, probably mostly white upper class types.SagaciousHillbillyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09511441325695460501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-71354149991608877642011-05-18T17:39:06.185-05:002011-05-18T17:39:06.185-05:00I cancelled my subscription to Psychology Today ov...I cancelled my subscription to Psychology Today over that mess. Here I was believing they were a reputable magazine!<br />I got rather "ethnic" with one of the CSRs. I know it was not his fault but I had to take out my rage on somebody.<br />There was nothing scientific about that study. The only conclusion that was drawn is that Satoshi Kanazawa is a racist bigot. He also believes that feminism is evil, black people (in general) are intellectually inferior, and that the solution (the final one I suppose?)to the war on terror would be a nuclear holocaust.<br />Any magazine that gives someone like that a platform does not deserve my dollars.Prince Toddhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17887009695613050017noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-7711192893615713712011-05-18T15:29:15.989-05:002011-05-18T15:29:15.989-05:00Thanks folks - for the links, the support and your...Thanks folks - for the links, the support and your understanding!<br /><br />Mac... wine and dark chocolate? And a trip to Canada too? I'm there!Shark-Fuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03323962708956637012noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-3205723638894350202011-05-18T15:01:57.547-05:002011-05-18T15:01:57.547-05:00As a middle aged white disabled woman who grew up ...As a middle aged white disabled woman who grew up pagan in the 60's and who has single parented, worked in the "male end" of IT,, I've been on both ends of privilege for different things.<br /><br />My mother raised me to go out of my way to be ... overly careful not to let my witchyness offend non-pagan types. After 50 years of that, and the increasing awareness of paganism in general, I do *not* feel like I need or want to explain anymore that I don't eat babies or sacrifice Christians. It's tiresome, demeaning, and feels like begging for an acceptance I really don't give a damn about. Same thing for "disturbing" the boys club by showing up to work.<br /><br />What this poster doesn't seem to get is that no, it isn't better to bow and scrape before privilege of *any* kind. It's another form of apologizing for who one is. Appeasement. That worked out so well for Britain in the 30's & 40's.Brocenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-12144331222263336552011-05-18T14:57:17.191-05:002011-05-18T14:57:17.191-05:00I wanted to say something to Aimee, white lady to ...I wanted to say something to Aimee, white lady to white lady, so I put it over here if she cares to look: http://machineplay.tumblr.com/post/5613329022/open-letter-to-another-white-lady-my-age<br /><br />ABB, I think you are all that, and thank you for your anger. I have some really good Pinot Noir and some dark chocolate in my pantry if you ever swing north of the border. <br /><br />spam catcher: outisdat (uhuh, dat shit is WAY out there.)Machttp://machineplay.tumblr.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-58701053687589399662011-05-18T14:26:03.125-05:002011-05-18T14:26:03.125-05:00Sharkfu this is why we had to lock down more than ...Sharkfu this is why we had to lock down more than one comm I've moderated. People like this would *insist* on rolling into poc conversations and discussions and then get enraged when their "contributions" were deemed irrelevant, derailing, or just plain hostile. <br /><br />I think the idea is that we are supposed to be so grateful that they "want to learn" and arent like those other people, we should drop whatever we are doing to give them whatever attention and resources they want. <br /><br />Oh well...Deluxnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-43941117072807972852011-05-18T14:22:22.803-05:002011-05-18T14:22:22.803-05:00OK Aimee? No, this post at this blog on this topic...OK Aimee? No, this post at this blog on this topic was NOT the place to decide that everyone needed to hand hold you through understanding your own racism and why shark fu is so mean to people who just want to learn. <br /><br /> You can interpret that as a free pass to pout and stomp that nobody is interested in hearing your voice, or you can perhaps learn that women of color sometimes need to take care of themselves first. <br /><br />ps: the fact that you needed to parade yr white liberal credentials made it clear that you werent that clueful to begin with.Deluxnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-9820701515952212342011-05-18T13:52:36.257-05:002011-05-18T13:52:36.257-05:00Okay, now...what part of "not about you"...Okay, now...what part of "not about you" and "not the right time for you to get your entitlement on" did you not understand?<br /><br />Aimee, your entire comment thread is a case study in white privilege.<br /><br />Look inward and examine your actions in this space.Shark-Fuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03323962708956637012noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-65621029720734989342011-05-18T12:29:30.202-05:002011-05-18T12:29:30.202-05:00Well I guess I made a major mistake. In thinking a...Well I guess I made a major mistake. In thinking anyone was interested in hearing MY voice.Aimeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06358194304460170717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-62492442536853965312011-05-18T06:36:24.924-05:002011-05-18T06:36:24.924-05:00Aimee...
I deeply resent your comments.
Given th...Aimee...<br /><br />I deeply resent your comments.<br /><br />Given the subject matter I am addressing here, it boggles the mind that you would choose this moment to flex your entitlement.<br /><br />And I resent the myth you are perpetuating - that bigotry and injustice just need the oppressed to set aside our natural and completely justified emotions so we can fullfil our role on earth which is to illuminate, tolerate, appease, and attend to.<br /><br />This post was not an opportunity for you to highjack the comment section with white guilt or for you to attempt to school me on how I offended you by the way I shared how I'm offended.<br /><br />This isn't about you.<br /><br />But then, I suspect that's the problem.Shark-Fuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03323962708956637012noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-65359772998747890832011-05-18T03:29:30.955-05:002011-05-18T03:29:30.955-05:00@Aimee-At what point are we allowed to get tired o...@Aimee-At what point are we allowed to get tired of having to educate the same people on the same topics over and over again? That's where a lot of our anger comes from. We are tired of having to prove our femininity, our humanity, at every turn. Are we wrong for this?Shonikahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10059026053589125961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-70386378312566456972011-05-17T22:49:12.025-05:002011-05-17T22:49:12.025-05:00well, stick your neck out and risk getting your he...well, stick your neck out and risk getting your head chopped off.... <br /><br />Pedahog: I specifically said it isn't anyone's job to educate the ignorant if they choose not to: I just wondered out loud if it might not be the right thing to do, annoying as it is... and please, learn to accept a compliment. I would never (and have never) asked to "pet" anyone's head, white or black. But I HAVE said "what awesome hair you have" and I don't see why on earth I ought to apologize for that. <br /><br />Jess: I agree that my entire life has been drenched in white privilege... but that is not an excuse to ignore my well-intentioned questions and my attempts to engage in a constructive dialogue. Even if my attempts are offensive (which I really don't think I was), a person who is truly interested in moving society forward will engage in conversation, don'tcha think?<br /><br />Ariel: questioning is not the same as demanding. An invitation to conversation is not an expression of entitlement. This blog is a forum that invites discussion, I think: am I wrong? You are right, if I were to walk up and ask these same questions of someone who hadn't invited public discourse, it would be presumptuous and offensive. I have more respect for Shark-Fu than to think she will be mortally offended or incapacitated by my really very ordinary inquiries. It seems to me that Shark-Fu is a brave person who is herself opening up avenues of debate. If people join her in the conversation, why should she be offended?<br /><br />Please note, Shark-Fu, I am not trying to speak for you or to anticipate your response. I hope I haven't offended you - it certainly wasn't my intent. My main point here is that there is nothing to be gained by making enemies of people who are good-hearted but clueless. The clueless should be approached gently, recruited to the side of the angels, as it were. If we attack them and vilify them just for being clueless, well, we stab ourselves in the foot, don't we?Aimeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06358194304460170717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-86953894546706417732011-05-17T21:29:14.451-05:002011-05-17T21:29:14.451-05:00@Aimee
As a young white woman, I understand your ...@Aimee<br /><br />As a young white woman, I understand your confusion. When I first exposed myself as a feminist to race and racism, I didn't understand the amount of anger. But then I learned that about what asking questions as a white woman means. It means that I expect an answer. It means that I am demanding people of color to prove their case. It means I think I'm entitled to their life experiences. <br /><br />These implications are derived from my privilege as a white woman. I didn't ask for it, but then, that's why it's called privilege. It's not my fault, but it is my responsibility. <br /><br />As feminists, we combat male privilege everyday. You choose to burden yourself with educating other men. As do I. But it is, in fact, a choice. It would be unfair to expect others to make the same choices we do, especially if we expect people of color to make the same choices as white people. That expectation, in and of itself, is drenched in privilege. <br /><br />As to your last question, combating privilege is not a zero sum game. Choosing to educate a privileged person is not better than belittling or scorning. It is a choice.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06228401826975811146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-45185295880291830512011-05-17T21:03:59.881-05:002011-05-17T21:03:59.881-05:00@ Aimee - from one 39-y-o white woman to another -...@ Aimee - from one 39-y-o white woman to another -<br /><br />It's great that you can respond constructively to the ignorant "why are you angry?" <br /><br />But please consider the possibility that, when you take ABB to task for her tone, it's white privilege talking. <br /><br />I find this post useful:<br />http://disabledfeminists.com/2010/05/02/educate-yourself/<br /><br />Thx for reading.Jesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14792005257520632399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-24636867309124780242011-05-17T20:54:02.437-05:002011-05-17T20:54:02.437-05:00Aimee - it is not Shark Fu's job to educate yo...Aimee - it is not Shark Fu's job to educate you. It is not the job of the oppressed to educate the oppressors. And if you really can't figure out what is so mind-numbingly OFFENSIVE and CONDESCENDING about asking to touch/pet a black woman's hair...I don't think you're as "progressive" or "enlightened" as you think you are.The Pedgehoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07938339360424729672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-43906137283027688662011-05-17T20:50:29.076-05:002011-05-17T20:50:29.076-05:00Great post. This really made me feel better today:...Great post. This really made me feel better today:-)The Roving Reporterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16172658008196704643noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-69690571234546439472011-05-17T18:56:41.683-05:002011-05-17T18:56:41.683-05:00I'm going to stick my neck out....
and first ...I'm going to stick my neck out....<br /><br />and first I'd like to parade my credentials, if you don't mind....<br /><br />I'm a white woman, age 39, raised in a very white city. Even so, I have had a black stepmother from the age of 12, and for the last fifteen years also have a black brother in law, mixed-race nieces and nephews, and am myself married to a Mexican immigrant, and have mixed race, bilingual children. I've lived in Mexico and consider myself to be pretty "progressive" or "enlightened" or whatever term best fits. I'm a long term reader and have commented here and there. <br /><br />I'm right with you about this rancid ad campaign - and the horrifying article-, and more generally, about the persistence of racism in many of our institutions and in the media. But I have to say, I'm confused and hurt by some of the assumptions built into this post.<br /><br />Isn't there something wrong when a person takes racial offense to the comment "I just love your hair!"?<br />Or even "black girls are so sexy!"? <br /><br />and as far as "explain to me why you're angry..." well, ignorance is frustrating to all of us. I understand the implied assertion that somehow you are to blame for being unreasonable or irrational for having any anger over historic and current injustices.<br />I'm white, but I'm also a woman and a feminist, and I have dealt with my fair share of ignorant, ham-fisted inquiries as to why I'm so angry. <br /><br />But I try to answer them. I try to engage the ignorant in conversation, at least until it has been conclusively proven to me that the person in question is incapable of open-mindedness. How else, after all, is any progress to be made? Some people can't be reached, some people are hardened racists, but not most of them. Most of them are uneducated innocents who really DO love your hair.<br /><br />Does it serve any useful purpose to make those people feel ashamed of themselves? This is an honest question - I KNOW it is work - tiresome work - to take on the burden of pleasantly educating the ignorant. Nobody has to do it if they don't feel like it. <br /><br />But don't you think it's better than belittling and scorning?Aimeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06358194304460170717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-34634258080352741952011-05-17T18:26:15.943-05:002011-05-17T18:26:15.943-05:00ABB! Holy moly, it's been probably ten years ...ABB! Holy moly, it's been probably ten years since I've commented on this lovely blog o' yours! <br /><br />I've been reading through and trying to catch up on whats been going on with you - but this whole attack against women (I know it's an attack against black women, but dammit, we women have got to stick up for each other too) is such amazing bullshit it's got me sidetracked!<br /><br />The thing that gets me...the whole "black woman" thing there...well, I know more little white girls who fit that description than ANYTHING...<br /><br />Ugh. Anyway - I missed you. Was sitting around minding my business a couple of weeks ago and I was like "Hey...I wonder if Angry Black Bitch is still there?" Lo and behold...here you are :) I'm so glad :)CCDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10679011189940638630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-12211029467460945702011-05-17T16:05:57.835-05:002011-05-17T16:05:57.835-05:00As the white mother of two beautiful and magnifice...As the white mother of two beautiful and magnificent black women I say to PTday: <br /><br />FUCK OFF AND DIEAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-51928501147313098352011-05-17T15:46:03.453-05:002011-05-17T15:46:03.453-05:00I check in every now and again to find out “WTF” t...I check in every now and again to find out “WTF” this time. Since it was “untitled” I almost let it slip by. So glad I didn’t. This is an excellent post. (You’ll be writing a book, right?)Angielhttp://angielondon.com/noreply@blogger.com