tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post177932207283227627..comments2024-01-17T15:05:50.120-06:00Comments on AngryBlackBitch: Pondering the photo ban...Shark-Fuhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03323962708956637012noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-49566346361363077832009-02-18T16:51:00.000-06:002009-02-18T16:51:00.000-06:00I agree that the ban should be lifted. There are ...I agree that the ban should be lifted. There are still people who support a war, support sending missiles and ammunition to shoot at other people literally thousands of miles away. They don't see the effect it has on others and our own soldiers.<BR/>But what's really sad is that the few images of Iraqis' and Afghanis' dead bodies on the U.S. media don't seem to phase Americans.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-20259107275420072052009-02-18T09:44:00.000-06:002009-02-18T09:44:00.000-06:00Perhaps it would be too difficult to institute a c...Perhaps it would be too difficult to institute a case-by-case policy, letting the family decide on how public the body's return is, but I really think that is the way to go.<BR/><BR/>I don't relish the idea of the media being attendant at my grief, but if that is what it would take to make people understand the cost of war, then I want them there (with the understanding that I will kick the hell out of them if they misbehave).<BR/><BR/>However, I'm in the minority among my military spouse friends (who happen to be solid liberals, if that matters). And I could never presume to insist that someone <I>doesn't</I> have the right to greet a loved one privately, even for a greater good. I sincerely hope that Secretary Gates listens to the people most affected before recommending any policy changes.Bettehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15320912691348176345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-79261303748325400452009-02-17T20:06:00.000-06:002009-02-17T20:06:00.000-06:00My father served three combat tours during the Vie...My father served three combat tours during the Viet Nam war. I don't remember doing this, but one of my uncles tells me that I was riveted by the reporting on the evening news. That was the only part of broadcast I cared about at age six.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-24891189286842567752009-02-17T18:44:00.000-06:002009-02-17T18:44:00.000-06:00Sorry ABB, but I'm going to break with you on this...Sorry ABB, but I'm going to break with you on this one...maybe because I'm retired military. My personal belief is the standard should be no photos unless the family elects to "opt in" and permit it. For every family who has lost a loved-one in the war and would be okay with it, there's another who most definitely would not be okay with it. It needs to remain the *family's* choice, not a third party's.<BR/><BR/>I've done casualty notification (fancy phrase for being the guy who gets to knock on the family's door and tell them what's happened) as well as buried three friends while on active duty. I can tell you, first hand, those families had absolutely no interest in seeing the death of their son/daughter/husband politicized.<BR/><BR/>Now, I fully understand that some familes want it to be public and open; more power to them. I reiterate, it should be *their* choice, not someone else's.<BR/><BR/>I adamantly do NOT believe in hiding the horrors of war, nothing is served by that. But seeing a coffin coveys considerably less impact than something like Michael Yon's photography during the war.<BR/><BR/>(For brevity's sake I'm not going to launch in to a philosphical discussion about the pros and cons of the average person seeing war's carnage in gory detail.)<BR/><BR/>Bottom line, and just my opinion, but let the families decide; not the local TV station or some toad in Washington.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-79772767841900737322009-02-17T16:54:00.000-06:002009-02-17T16:54:00.000-06:00ABB's blog is a finalist for The Lesbian Lifestyle...ABB's blog is a finalist for The Lesbian Lifestyle's Political/Feminist blog of the year - this is the last day to vote....<BR/><BR/>http://www.thelesbianlifestyle.comMe. Here. Right now.https://www.blogger.com/profile/17340392061207298502noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-40202242588857539222009-02-17T14:27:00.000-06:002009-02-17T14:27:00.000-06:00The Vietnam war was dubbed "the living room war" b...The Vietnam war was dubbed "the living room war" because every night it was on your telly during the evening news. I remember Dan Rather reporting from a foxhole and I can still see it clear as if it happened yesterday.<BR/><BR/>If we allowed genuine reporting from the field of war we would be horrified at what does down and what happens withoout anyone blinking a fucking eye. <BR/><BR/>So yes, I want more graphic death and destruction on our tv's....so everyone knows wtf is going on and they can't delude themselves anylonger.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06698117410778232102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-43169847728875474252009-02-17T14:07:00.000-06:002009-02-17T14:07:00.000-06:00I am 100% with you on this.I am 100% with you on this.whatsernamehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15731411057968563416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-31273471799097013812009-02-17T12:48:00.000-06:002009-02-17T12:48:00.000-06:00I feel that perhaps at most, the individual famili...I feel that perhaps at most, the individual families should be able to opt out of the photography if they so desire, but this has never been about respect for them or dignity for the fallen. It was an attempt to keep selling their war of lies by not souring the American public on it. That is what I would not want to have happen to anyone I cared about who was coming home in a coffin: I wouldn't want them to be used to sell the same war that killed them.<BR/> -Doug in Oaklanddinthebeasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12941071534250216503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-17813469446246294402009-02-17T11:13:00.000-06:002009-02-17T11:13:00.000-06:00Those of us who can remember the Vietnam war...the...Those of us who can remember the Vietnam war...there essentially was no protest until news media technology began to bring the war into living rooms during the six o'clock news/dinner hour...Once Americans saw....then the government couldn't get away with molding how we the people, thought about the war....The policy to ban the pics was changed precisely to shield the Government in a cya move, not to bandaid the sensibilities of citizens...Jo Moorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03201023111774829711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-31254830661566957202009-02-17T08:27:00.000-06:002009-02-17T08:27:00.000-06:00Given that Dubya started this ban at the very begi...Given that Dubya started this ban at the very beginning of the conflict, I think that the photo ban had the same origin as Dubya's call (in October 2001) to go out and buy an SUV as a "patriotic" act: the previous administration <B>wanted</B> the horror and death involved in the war(s) to remain distant from the general public's mind.jsb16https://www.blogger.com/profile/15026570673498674977noreply@blogger.com